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2005年3月12日 #

Recent comments on MS Groove issue

http://www.infoworld.com/article/05/03/10/HNmicrosoftgroovedeal_1.html
"The combination of real time server based and peer-to-peer communications will clearly be a significant enhancement, so you can expect that as part of our product planning for the next major wave. We are expecting to use it very broadly," said Jeff Raikes, group vice president in charge of Microsoft's Information Worker Business unit.

I'm reminded of what Jon Udell had to say two years ago:
InfoWorld- Uniting under Groove- February 14, 2003- By Jon Udell ...
"Groove founder Ray Ozzie and his teams have always pretended to build application software. But what they have actually delivered are the operating systems of the future — years ahead of schedule.
It defines what Microsoft and Apple will be lucky to achieve by 2006. "


http://news.com.com/Ozzie+wants+a+unified+story+at+Microsoft/2008-1012_3-5611099.html

Ray Ozzie says:
"I think what Bill is referring to is that some of those technologies, particularly security, have more general applicability than the general collaboration offerings. It's too soon to know or discuss what the specific impact will be, but I will be working with the platform group to see (how) those things that we've done can be generalized."

http://www.internetnews.com/ent-news/article.php/3489576

 Meta Group analyst Mike Gotta said Groove's middleware should benefit Microsoft's next-generation operating system, Longhorn, due in 2006.

"Groove has invested a lot of its intellectual property in its middleware," Gotta said. "Everyone tends to talk about the client and gets enamored with Virtual Office. But the crown jewel is not the desktop application. The crown jewel is all of the middleware and the security model around it and the fact that it is firewall friendly."

My 2 Cents:
I guess the acquirement will be finished in late June/early July. They have to deal with some law issue both in American and Euro. Because it's a buy from Microsoft.


Groove will be adopted in the following route:
Integrate it into the Office Suite(Sharepoint, Live Communication Server especially) --->MSN Desktop--->OS(Longhorn)  Groove Network has invested lots of time and effort to release Web Service Development Ket(GWSDK). Though it's not that powerful compared to the COM/Interop tool level development. However the team is eager to hear its partner's voice. For example, I asked Message History management web service when they release 3.0(f) and I got it the day before yesterday in 3.1. Support from GN is famous and I am sure we will get better support from MS later.

And my suspection: Groove,as-we-know, will vanish later. MS buy Groove as an investment for Office 12, MSN and Longhorn.

posted @ 2005-03-12 22:35 Jirong Zhou 阅读(649) 评论(1) 编辑

Groove Custom Development

不出意料,几年后微软收购了Groove公司,Ray  Ozzie也出任MS的CTO。看来这几年这个平台上花的时间没有白费,从开始复杂的COM API集到现在的web service toolkit.庆祝下自己的选择,不好意思放首页来了:)

posted @ 2005-03-12 04:25 Jirong Zhou 阅读(1046) 评论(8) 编辑

vs.net启动无法装载包

上个月出现的问题,重装vs.net也没效果,今晚查了下KB,原来是我把Protected  Storage服务关掉,控制面板里启动这个服务就能解决。另外这个服务禁止之后,启动MSN会有个漫长的等待。

SYMPTOMS

When you start Visual Studio .NET, you may receive the following error message:
Package 'VsRptDesigner package' has failed to load properly
Also, you may receive the following error messages when you install Visual Studio .NET:
Package 'VsRptDesigner Package' intentionally skipped from loading ( GUID = {GUID NUMBER HERE} ). Please contact package vendor for assistance. Run 'devenv /resetskippkgs' to re-enable all skipped packages
Package 'Crystal Reports Tools Package' intentionally skipped from loading ( GUID = {GUID NUMBER HERE} ). Please contact package vendor for assistance. Run 'devenv /resetskippkgs' to re-enable all skipped packages.
CDPackage 'ACT Project Package' intentionally skipped from loading ( GUID = {GUID NUMBER HERE} ). Please contact package vendor for assistance. Run 'devenv /resetskippkgs' to re-enable all skipped packages.

CAUSE

This problem may occur if you install Visual Studio .NET on a computer that does not have the Protected Storage service running.

RESOLUTION

To resolve this problem, start the Protected Storage service, and then reload the skipped packages.
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=823245

posted @ 2005-03-12 04:19 Jirong Zhou 阅读(1274) 评论(0) 编辑